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Post by JG on Jan 28, 2014 16:58:59 GMT
Hello Everyone.
I have a few projects on the go now so i am thinking of getting a workshop (shed) put up in the garden, looking at 12 x 8 which i think should do the job, so watch this thread and enjoy, if you see me going wrong please say lol
I would like to insulate the inside but not sure what stuff to use, looks like google will get a beating soon lol
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steadykev
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Post by steadykev on Jan 28, 2014 19:21:22 GMT
Evening JG, My only advise, for what its worth is, buy as big as you can afford/fit in garden, because once you start insulating it, putting a bench up, shelves, storage...etc.etc..........it will seem soooo small in no time. Keep us posted Cheers Kev.
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Post by Jef on Jan 28, 2014 19:31:30 GMT
Totally agree with Kev. Biggest is Best!
The concrete base wants to be a couple of inches above the surrounding ground level and exactly the same size as the shed. Around the base, a depth of a few inches of gravel (the size that cats don't like to use), so that drips off the roof soak away.
When the roof is felted, completely cover the roof again with another layer of felt.
Hope this helps.
Jef
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Post by JG on Jan 28, 2014 20:27:58 GMT
Hello All, I was thinking of having a wooden frame as a base as my ground is not level and will take a lot of digging out and a lot of concrete, that's what i am thinking anyway.
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Post by Jef on Jan 28, 2014 20:48:42 GMT
hi Admin Not wishing to sound a bit of a kill-joy, and it may seem like a waste of model flying pennies now, but your workshop will be there for a LONG time. (Mine was erected just over ten years ago and I can't believe how quick the time has gone, as it is 20' x 10' there is no way it can be moved without being emptied and dismantled from the top down.) Before embarking on the project, it might be pertinent to ask yourself the question "What am I going to do when the wooden base rots?" If your answer is, "It doesn't matter, I will be living elsewhere in ten years", then go ahead. It will be someone else's problem.
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Post by JG on Jan 28, 2014 20:54:46 GMT
Jef - Yeh good point, how thick would you do a concrete base ?
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Post by Jef on Jan 28, 2014 21:16:59 GMT
My workshop base is 4" thick, including a good layer of well whacked hard-core, and there is some steel mesh reinforcement in there too, to keep it all together.
I don't have a lathe, but I am confident that the base would support one, if anyone wishes to make a donation!
The base thickness could be reduced to 2"-3", if money is really tight, I suppose.
Leave the base to dry out for at least a month before putting the shed on it - or you will get a lot of condensation inside the shed in the first couple of weeks (I didn't know that, when I did it).
In answer to your original post, I lined the walls with fibreglass loft insulation and 9mm plywood.
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Post by JG on Jan 28, 2014 22:05:20 GMT
Jef - How many bags of concrete is that
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Post by JG on Jan 29, 2014 8:38:06 GMT
Jef - Do you have your workshop on the concrete base or have you got a wooden base on yours ? I use to have a tree in my garden which was a good size, the top of the tree got removed years ago now but left a small stump and the roots, that going to be the tricky bit to big out, thay way i was thinking also of a wooden base, we shall see
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steadykev
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Post by steadykev on Jan 29, 2014 10:16:56 GMT
Good morning JG and jef, A couple of thoughts and a question Have to say that what jef has said is spot on. Build it properly...build it once. However, if the digging out etc is going to be a problem, can you lay the wooden shed base on a breeze block (or similar) base? Possibly with gravel/stones underneath to stop weeds/grass growing? It`s just a thought jef. One other point is those roots.I don`t no much about trees other than roots can be very destructive to anything in its path--including a shed! You don`t want your nice new shed been pushed and shoved (destroyed) by the roots. JG, I bet you thought this was going to be a relatively easy project? Never mind, chin up; onward and upward Take care both Kev
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Post by JG on Jan 29, 2014 10:34:04 GMT
Kev - to be honest i thought i was going to be easy and straight forward lol but things are never are, i did look at Railway Sleepers as a base but then i thought they might start sinking, as for the tree roots do they keep growing when there is no tree above ?
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Post by steadykev on Jan 29, 2014 15:37:33 GMT
Hi Jg, Not sure about the roots thing but I would think that unless the tree is `killed` at the roots, they will keep growing. Might be worth asking a tree specialist or someone in the know.
Sorry can`t help more.
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Post by Jef on Jan 29, 2014 18:19:21 GMT
Hi all.
Trees don't stop trying just because someone has done some excessive pruning LOL.
Best thing to do is have a little patience, buy some root killer (at your local garden centre) and give it a few weeks to work. In a short space of time (relative to how much spare time you have, as it will be working when you are not there) the roots simply rot away to nothing.
If patience is something you don't have time for, like most modern people, either build a bonfire on top of the stump and keep the wood burning until it's all ash, or hire a root muncher.
These are like a rotavator and require a lot of access space around the stump, trust me though, digging the stump out will be very hard work, and if there isn't a good deal of space around it, that will make life even harder.
My son in law had a row of nine conifers, along the back of his garden, about 10m tall. We cut them down and dug them out. At every opportunity we were hacking pruning and sawing, and having only just completed that task, it is two years since we started. It would have been a far, far better idea to have cut them down and applied some root killer. Once we had dug out all the roots getting rid of them was a right royal pain in the backside!!!
Yes JG, I have a wooden floor inside the shed. Even in the worst weather, it is always bone dry, it is also sealed against ingress of vermin between the concrete base and the floor.
Hope this helps.
Jef
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Post by JG on Jan 29, 2014 18:27:15 GMT
Rot killer could be the way forward then, how long does it take ..time for google again lol
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Post by Jef on Jan 29, 2014 19:14:02 GMT
Rot killer could be the way forward then, how long does it take ..time for google again lol Depends on the root... maybe two to three months for a big un. You simply drill some holes pour it in and let it get on with it... plenty more flying time!
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